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Just finished making my way through all parts of your manifesto and really appreciated the way you articulated many thoughts I have grappled with as a SoCal SGV Wasian, especially the first three parts on WFAM and the sections on "boba liberals." I grew up in the heart of the 626/SGV, but now teach in East LA, and it's been an experience navigating my own whiteness/Asianness going from being fundamentally a part of the majority to being one of two Asian adults on a campus of no Asian (and no white!) children. I teach ethnic studies and often have these conversations about positionality with my students (or have to frame lessons with my own positionality) because our experiences have fundamentally been so different, and I appreciate the additional frameworks to imagine these topics through that you've laid out in your work.

A lot of what you describe also helps frame the unease I feel at the rise of LA mahjong clubs (which I have attended and enjoyed!), which I feel are well intentioned desire for community in LA (I also attend a monthly knitting group), but can often veer into the "auto-orientalism" you talk about (thinking about the "ni-howdy" mahjong/line dance/ rave event that a socal boba run club threw in February to celebrate the new year).

I have lots of thoughts bouncing around my head and will definitely be thinking about what you've written for a while, but I just wanted to express my appreciation for this work and look forward to what you get up to next . I especially appreciate how extensive and thorough your bibliographies were on all parts - definitely bookmarked many other things to read after getting through this (having done a lot of graduate research and writing on Hawai'i, I had no idea that Haunani Kay Trask had a white partner?)

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Reading this and your other work, "you can't just call everyone an incel" really made me think (which is of course the intention) about my own history of dating as it pertains to race. Being a Black woman who dates guarantees that dating for me has to be weird. Despite my best efforts, every dating decision I've made has been deeply political. TBH I don't think marginalized people make dating decisions that aren't political (white supremacy makes pundits of us all). But even in that, how can those dating decisions be justified? How many are proactive protection and how many are preemptive payback?

I've been able to think of my interactions with Asian men and I've realized that they mostly consist of me doing some sort of suppression. I assume that any show of attraction will immediately be met with anti-blackness or disgust so I kill attraction before it can sprout legs. Unfortunately, the easiest way to kill attraction is to assign other unsavory characteristics, a lot of which you've detailed in your work. Ironically, I end up perpetuating behavior I'm afraid of receiving from others.

I have no idea how to orient myself around this new understanding but I appreciate you for providing it!

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